Comments on: Why is the Mouse PC Only? http://www.binarycreativity.com/2006/09/20/why-is-the-mouse-pc-only/ Matt Gilgenbach's blog on game development and creativity through this nascent medium of self expression. Mon, 19 Sep 2011 05:22:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Richard http://www.binarycreativity.com/2006/09/20/why-is-the-mouse-pc-only/#comment-41 Richard Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:31:52 +0000 http://www.binarycreativity.com/2006/09/20/why-is-the-mouse-pc-only/#comment-41 I had no idea this was as big a deal as it seems to be, but I am very happy it is. I have not purchased a console for exactly this reason only. I have signed a petition for microsoft to add mouse and keyboard support and we need to get as many as possible to do the same. here is the link http://www.petitiononline.com/x360kbm/petition-sign.html I had no idea this was as big a deal as it seems to be, but I am very happy it is. I have not purchased a console for exactly this reason only. I have signed a petition for microsoft to add mouse and keyboard support and we need to get as many as possible to do the same. here is the link
http://www.petitiononline.com/x360kbm/petition-sign.html

]]> By: Nelson Lavers http://www.binarycreativity.com/2006/09/20/why-is-the-mouse-pc-only/#comment-38 Nelson Lavers Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:22:09 +0000 http://www.binarycreativity.com/2006/09/20/why-is-the-mouse-pc-only/#comment-38 So... The Sony people will try to encourage support for the mouse and keyboard to it developers in order to out sell PC games? sounds good! right?? I am really hoping so, because I don't want to keep upgrading my PC and then substitute detail settings when it gets a little older. It feels like ever 2 years I am in need of a boost of some sort. I need to have my FPS games play properly or I'm not in at all. I know I have read about the support with mice and keys on-line for the PS3, but when I looked at the new magazines in the store yesterday (3 of them..PS3 only) I did not find one hint that there was anything to look forward to as a mouse/keyboard player... but I am hoping I tell you! I wouldn't even mind if I had to buy a Sony mouse and keyboard to play like that... honestly, I would buy it in a heart beat as long as it was workable and stable like a normal configuration. This is a great topic Matt... thanks a lot! So… The Sony people will try to encourage support for the mouse and keyboard to it developers in order to out sell PC games? sounds good! right?? I am really hoping so, because I don’t want to keep upgrading my PC and then substitute detail settings when it gets a little older. It feels like ever 2 years I am in need of a boost of some sort. I need to have my FPS games play properly or I’m not in at all.

I know I have read about the support with mice and keys on-line for the PS3, but when I looked at the new magazines in the store yesterday (3 of them..PS3 only) I did not find one hint that there was anything to look forward to as a mouse/keyboard player… but I am hoping I tell you!

I wouldn’t even mind if I had to buy a Sony mouse and keyboard to play like that… honestly, I would buy it in a heart beat as long as it was workable and stable like a normal configuration.

This is a great topic Matt… thanks a lot!

]]> By: Matt http://www.binarycreativity.com/2006/09/20/why-is-the-mouse-pc-only/#comment-37 Matt Fri, 29 Sep 2006 01:49:25 +0000 http://www.binarycreativity.com/2006/09/20/why-is-the-mouse-pc-only/#comment-37 Nelson, I appreciate your feedback! I would argue that it wouldn't take away from their gamepad sales. People would still buy gamepads for other games that would use them in a much better capacity. As I suggested, keyboard and mouse users could be separated from gamepad users on Xbox Live. I would also argue that making mice work in the 360 versions wouldn't take away from PC sales. Many Microsoft first party games are coming to Windows and Xbox. Halo 2 is coming to PC. The original Halo was already released. Shadowrun (another first person shooter) is PC and Xbox 360. People who want to play it on a PC can if they want to. People who don't want to upgrade their machines wouldn't have to in order to play with a certain control scheme. Microsoft is much better off selling games for Xbox 360 because they get a cut out of every game sold regardless of the publisher. If someone buys Battlefield 2142 for the PC, Microsoft makes no money. If someone buys it for Xbox 360, Microsoft gets a cut. Sony is in the same boat. They make no money if someone buys the PC version. They should allow the use of mice to try and sell more Playstation 3 games instead of PC games. Let's also use the recently announced Halo Wars as an example. That's an RTS that's Xbox 360 exclusive. Microsoft would be foolish to support only the gamepad. If they supported a mouse and keyboard, then they could possibly sell Xbox 360s to hardcore RTS players. If they don't, then no RTS fan is going to buy it. It may get a few newbies interested, but on the whole, it'll probably alienate RTS fans. Nelson, I appreciate your feedback! I would argue that it wouldn’t take away from their gamepad sales. People would still buy gamepads for other games that would use them in a much better capacity. As I suggested, keyboard and mouse users could be separated from gamepad users on Xbox Live.

I would also argue that making mice work in the 360 versions wouldn’t take away from PC sales. Many Microsoft first party games are coming to Windows and Xbox. Halo 2 is coming to PC. The original Halo was already released. Shadowrun (another first person shooter) is PC and Xbox 360. People who want to play it on a PC can if they want to. People who don’t want to upgrade their machines wouldn’t have to in order to play with a certain control scheme. Microsoft is much better off selling games for Xbox 360 because they get a cut out of every game sold regardless of the publisher. If someone buys Battlefield 2142 for the PC, Microsoft makes no money. If someone buys it for Xbox 360, Microsoft gets a cut.

Sony is in the same boat. They make no money if someone buys the PC version. They should allow the use of mice to try and sell more Playstation 3 games instead of PC games.

Let’s also use the recently announced Halo Wars as an example. That’s an RTS that’s Xbox 360 exclusive. Microsoft would be foolish to support only the gamepad. If they supported a mouse and keyboard, then they could possibly sell Xbox 360s to hardcore RTS players. If they don’t, then no RTS fan is going to buy it. It may get a few newbies interested, but on the whole, it’ll probably alienate RTS fans.

]]> By: Nelson Lavers http://www.binarycreativity.com/2006/09/20/why-is-the-mouse-pc-only/#comment-36 Nelson Lavers Fri, 29 Sep 2006 01:08:32 +0000 http://www.binarycreativity.com/2006/09/20/why-is-the-mouse-pc-only/#comment-36 your right... I would love to frag all the little "gamepad" people with my lazer mouse and keyboard... they would have no chance against the old school gang... the mouse is written for FPS ..and it is way faster than pressing on any controller. ...you know why there is no support for the mouse and board ...because they don't want to take away from the sales of their game pads ...period. ...and get anyone mad at old school pro's on-line. Gates didn't want this as well with the 360... because... ..why would he take away from PC sales with his bread and butter OS software. ...the best of both worlds I guess The reality of it is that the industry is a monopoly in general and they will not step on there own toes to make a few happy on a larger scale. ...dollars and cents pal... cents... not common scene here , ..I hear you though. Later.... n your right…

I would love to frag all the little “gamepad” people with my lazer mouse and keyboard… they would have no chance against the old school gang… the mouse is written for FPS ..and it is way faster than pressing on any controller.

…you know why there is no support for the mouse and board …because they don’t want to take away from the sales of their game pads …period. …and get anyone mad at old school pro’s on-line.

Gates didn’t want this as well with the 360… because… ..why would he take away from PC sales with his bread and butter OS software. …the best of both worlds I guess

The reality of it is that the industry is a monopoly in general and they will not step on there own toes to make a few happy on a larger scale. …dollars and cents pal… cents… not common scene here , ..I hear you though.

Later….

n

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