How was Jade selling sex on our community site? by posing in a black vest, wow, I’m sure that’s more than most women wear in the summer,stop being a prude darling.

“If it was about the games, and the community – you really wouldn’t need so many photos of yourselves. All you’d need is to be a good writer, get gaming ideas across and attract people to your forum because there’s interesting ideas to read.”

We had a photo thread for all our members, just a bit of fun, lighten up perhaps?

“he pictures aren’t really meant to be ’sexy’ I am of course flattered yet amused that people perceived it that way – get over yourself!”

Um, no, I was responding to a previous comment, if someone suggested you were sexy wouldn’t you be flattered? maybe not in prude land..

“Please stop – you’re damaging girls in gaming as much as the fragdolls are. And well done for sticking up for your decision to call yourself Vixen – based on Lara Croft being a video game vixen….thats not connecting you with sex or gorgeous, kick ass women in anyway now is it?”

‘Girls in gaming’ this whole subject is stupid, gaming is gaming and people should chill out and stop being so bloody anal about it. It’s gamers that put me off games most of the time.
What’s wrong with idolising Lara Croft? she represents a strong, sexy, confident and athletic woman? Please explain how this is an issue, Lara was designed to appeal to both men and women…
Oh…and I AM a kick ass woman, care to go some?

If it was about the games, and the community – you really wouldn’t need so many photos of yourselves. All you’d need is to be a good writer, get gaming ideas across and attract people to your forum because there’s interesting ideas to read.

he pictures aren’t really meant to be ’sexy’ I am of course flattered yet amused that people perceived it that way – get over yourself!

Please stop – you’re damaging girls in gaming as much as the fragdolls are. And well done for sticking up for your decision to call yourself Vixen – based on Lara Croft being a video game vixen….thats not connecting you with sex or gorgeous, kick ass women in anyway now is it?

I love Gears of War, and I’d be glad to play. Unfortunately, I’m working on putting the finishing touches on Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters, so I don’t have time for gaming until that is done. I’m not that great at games, and I’m woefully out of practice since I’ve been working constantly, so I look forward to getting my butt kicked by you (or face curb stomped) in the future!

I will try and clear up what I can without being defensive (as I don’t have any regrets as far as the creation of VersuS goes to date.)

The pictures aren’t really meant to be ‘sexy’ I am of course flattered yet amused that people perceived it that way, we were literally just hanging out the weekend before we launched the site and believe it or not do actually wear those gloves on a daily basis, I have a whole selection but Siren had kindly bought them for me as a present from Germany. We got PSiBRiD to take some pictures because we wanted a way of establishing ourselves as the hosts of the website, faces for people to remember to headline the site before the Community kicked off. This may not have been to everyone’s tastes but we are still pleased to have them there.

I am pleased with the site and very pleased with the way we have already enjoyed meeting some of the community at Lans which have been modest and relaxed social affairs. We aim to keep thinking of more fun things to plan for everyone and will continue to make our own videos playing and reviewing anything that we feel that people ought to spend their hard earned cash on.

We have never once wished to make it all about being girls, the forumer photo threads allow for everyone to send in snap shots of their faces, man, woman or monster.

Things will keep changing but it’s nice as we don’t work for anyone we can enjoy and learn as we go along.

I repsect you for keeping your Blog and please don’t feel that you need to change your opinions about the site we made, part of the thing we are happy about is that everyone has a right to say what they please without worrying about being employed (which was Siren’s issue with being a Frag Doll).

Any way, keep up the good work! enjoy your gaming, and if you ever just fancy hooking up for a game or 2, (especially Gears Of War) please add my Tag ‘Vixen VS’.

Anyway, Vixen, I wish you all the luck with your website! Hopefully, you’ll be able to build a great community there. It sounds like you are well on your way. I hope you don’t think I was attacking you or Siren personally. It was more a general observation about “girl gamers” that came to me when reading other blogs about your website. Plenty of my points were regarding the Frag Dolls and similar clans. I apologize if you feel unfairly singled out or lumped in with those groups. Yes, your goals are different than those clans, and probably more respectable, but your promotion methods seemed similar ie. attractive women getting the attention of geeky gamers.

We have a gallery so that we could be recognized as the hosts of our site, the site itself isn’t about us, it’s just that we put it together and keep it running (with PSiBRiD’S help of course). If you look at the site, we are using it as a joint Blog to show and review games we like/dislike and events that we are attending as well as arranging gaming tourneys and allowing others to express their own reviews and stories.

I don’t understand what is wrong with that. I appriciate your opinions but I have to agree with PSiBRiD that you ought to research something more before you spend time making it look bad for the sake of it.

Many of the people that we have been lucky to meet at gaming events have enjoyed the site for the chance to use it how they like and because we have a very friendly and varied community.

On GameSetWatch, it sounded like Vixen recognized that they were deliberately “girl gamer” photos when she said: “We are hoping to invite all types of people to our site, the initial photos are there to raise some level of attention sure” I may be misinterpreting her, but as I mentioned in my post, why choose the names “Vixen” and “Siren” if you aren’t trying to wave the girl gamer flag? Why do they have to put pictures up of themselves at all? My blog is deliberately devoid of pictures or information. That’s not because of privacy. It’s because I want my blog to be about my thoughts, not me as a person. They could have created their site with that in mind.

Remember, I’m just giving my opinion. I’ll admit that it’s very difficult to determine on a global scale what is “good” or “bad” for women in games, and sometimes actions unintentionally have bad consequences. I don’t know the women in VersuS (as it sounds like you do), but I imagine that they are very nice people. I just don’t think that their actions match their mission statements, so I don’t think they are furthering the cause of female gamers. I could be wrong though since it’s a difficult thing to measure.

I hope that clears some things up, and thanks for posting.

“Most female gamers are just that: gamers who are female. They just want to be treated like everyone else. ”

they say “Just Gamers, Not “Girl Gamers”

On a similar note, we may both be girls who game but we are not here to wave the “girl gamer” flag. We believe that by drawing attention to gender you create a barrier that is otherwise irrelevant. In our experience “promoting girl gamers” can often be used as the cover story of big business trying to widen its market whilst still getting some pretty faces in the Magazines, in other words: Free advertising.

It’s a natural progression that more and more women are getting into gaming and of course we fully support that.

However, we don’t see any need to define ourselves by gender. We’re just two people who love games. That said, we’re not going to cover our bodies from head to toe to hide our gender… we are what we are, if you want to focus on our gender that’s your choice but this is the last time we’ll mention it…”

VersuS make it perfectly clear on thier site what they are about and have done nothing to make me think otherwise. Most of the negative comments about them tend to stink of poor research,

I would suggest checking the facts a little more.